I have been around the Rc scene because the beginning! Regarding the earlier, chemical collective could seems to be highly-priced. But do not forget that the chemicals come from a lab that we'll normally remember as the Hoffman/shulgin/Nichols, of our modern times! Umfortunately I have never recieved the parcel. See https://toronto-research-chemical38158.madmouseblog.com/16755808/the-ultimate-guide-to-chemicals-research